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Roulette Electronic Roulette Theories

Kody Nelson

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I have been studying electronic roulette for almost 2 years.. I have noticed different rng algorithms that continue to occur. I will list the various ones here, please comment how they work for you. This is for electronic roulette, not online (although it may work there, never tested) and not regular table play.

Inside Bets:
#29
- when a 29 hits play the numbers 15, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 34. I have seen that these numbers will generally come in 7/10 attempts.

Bet stratagy:
- When 29 hits, bet all 10 numbers only for a quarter each. If it hits, you win and you wait till the next 29 hits and start bet over again at quarters. If it misses, wait until the next 29 hits and bet 50 cents on each number. If it continues to miss, wait until the next 29 hits and raise each number bet by a quarter. Continue this process until one of the 10 numbers hit. Once the hit occurs, start the bet back over at a quarter per number and repeat process ONLY WHEN THE 29 HITS...

#35
- when a 35 hits play the numbers 0, 00, 2, 10, 14, 18, 23, 33, 35 and 36. I have seen that these numbers will generally come in 6/10 attempts.

Bet stratagy:
- When 35 hits, bet all 10 numbers only for a quarter each. If it hits, you win and you wait till the next 35 hits and start bet over again at quarters. If it misses, wait until the next 35 hits and bet 50 cents on each number. If it continues to miss, wait until the next 35 hits and raise each number bet by a quarter. Continue this process until one of the 10 numbers hit. Once the hit occurs, start the bet back over at a quarter per number and repeat process ONLY WHEN THE 35 HITS....

2-4-6-8:
- When a 2, 4, 6, or 8 hit consecutively (back to back) another 2, 4, 6, 8 or 10 will follow withing the next 6-8 spins.

Bet stratagy:
Wait for a 2, 4, 6 or 8 to hit consecutively back to back. Bet a quarter on 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10. Raise bet by a quarter every other spin or every spin if your bankroll can support it. Repeat bet for next 6-8 spins.

1-3-5-7-9:
- When a 1, 3, 5, 7 or 9 hit consecutively (back to back) another 1, 3, 5, 7 or 9 will follow withing the next 6-8 spins.

Bet stratagy:
Wait for a 1, 3, 4, 7 or 9 to hit consecutively back to back. Bet a quarter on 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9. Raise bet by a quarter every other spin or every spin if your bankroll can support it. Repeat bet for next 6-8 spins.

Doubles:
- When a double (00, 2, 4, 6, 8, 11, 22, 33) hits, it generally likes to go back to another double. I'd say 7/10 attempts.

Bet Stratagy:
- When one of the following doubles hit. (00, 2, 4, 6, 8, 11, 22 or 33) bet all 8 numbers (1 bet) for a quarter each. If it hits, wait until next double hit and repeat the process. If it misses, wait for next double to hit and raise each bet by a quarter. Repeat process only after one of the following 8 doubles hit.

Note: 2, 4, 6 and 8 are considered hidden doubles. 11 is 1+1= (2), 22 is 2+2= (4), 33 is 3+3= (6) and odly enough, an 8 sideways represents the 00. (For you curious minds out there)

0 and 00 Theory:
- When a 0 or 00 (green) hits. A 0, 00, 1, 2, 27, 28, 36 will hit within 7 spins afterwards.

Bet Stratagy #1:
- After a 0 or 00 hit, bet all 7 numbers (0, 00, 1, 2, 27, 28, 36) for the next 7 spins. Raise each bet every other spin or every spin if your bankroll supports it.

(To bet 7 numbers at a quarter on a $2 minimum bet you would have to bet the 7 numbers at a quarter and bet 1 quarter on red and 1 on black making your 1st bet $2.25. The red and black quarters ofset themselves therefore you are only spending $1.75 per spin.)

Bet Stratagy #2:
- After a 0 or 00 hit, split 0-00 for 50 cents. Play 50 cents on the 1-2-3 street, 25-26-27 street, 28-29-30 street and 34-35-36 street. Yon can either flat bet this until you receive 2 wins with-in 7 spins or progresive bet starting out at a quarter on each street and raising a quarter until you get 1 win. After the win, wait for next 0-00 to hit and repeat process.

Note: to start out at quarters and progress each street, your first bet would be a quarter on 0-00 split, quarter on the 1-2-3 street, 25-26-27 street, 28-29-30 street and 34-35-36 street. ($1.25) You would then place a quarter on 1st 12, 2nd 12 and 3rd 12 to counteract. You would only loose $1.25 1st bet. 2nd bet goes to 50 cents. Bet is raised for all 7 spins or 1st win then you wait.

Outside Bets:
- For my outside bet theories i would recommend if you have an Android phone, download the app (Smart Roulette Tracker) and set your settings to the following.

Columns: 5
Dozens: 5
Streets: 91
Lines: 49

Bet stratagy:
- If you obtained the app and set it correctly, you would wait until 2 in the column section or 2 in the dozens section turn red and you would start betting the 2 columns or dozens that turned red. You would triple your bet after every miss so i would recommend starting out low.

As for the streets or lines, you would wait until one of the streets or lines turned red and then started betting. You would raise your bet by a quarter after every miss until the hit.

If you are not able to get the app. Wait until a column or dozen has hit for 5 consecutive spins then bet the opposite two.

For streets, wait until a single street (1-2-3) hasn't hit for 91 spins then start betting it. $2, $2.25, $2.50 etc.

For Lines, wait until a single line (1-2-3-4-5-6) hasn't hit for 49 spins then start betting it. $2, $2.25, $2.50, etc.

I hope this information helps, please reply if you have questions or remarks.
 

steve

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Exactly what is the working principle that you think makes one number (or column etc) more likely than another to spin next?
 

Kody Nelson

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On an electronic roulette system, numbers are not random like a table roulette game. It is computer generated and the numbers are played in what is called a seed. There is a computer that is under the machine which tells the ball where to go. Once the screen says "No More Bets" the machine already knows where the ball is going to land. This is done by air control. Air blows out at different speeds controlling the flow of the ball and the intention of where it will land.

Computer similation is also played by numbers. You will notice a lot of times a nimber will be +1,+2,-1,-2,×2,/2. There are also patterns called doubles (which i explained above) and swaps. 13-31, 23-32 and 12-21. Other things to look for 3 likes 30 27 33 or say 2 numbers add to 30 (25 then 5) 31 would follow..

I am currently working on finding the top 10 main numbers that all 36 numbers go to. Once thats done, i have a 6 bet progression that will do nothing but make money. I will keep you all posted once its completed...
 

Kody Nelson

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Mostly microsoft excel, formulas and overall playing and collecting numbers daily... As for what i know, ive made a pretty extensive detailed summery in this thread...
 

Phi

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I think that anything is going to have some kind of recursive patterns including RNG

Kody exactly how are you assessing patterns to find them? I go you using some kind of software?
 

22doh

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If you are using automated software it would make finding patterns much easier. At least with random number generators you can easily get thousands of spins if not millions to do testing
 

cedric

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Wow I have to say from my own observation and play for the last two in a half years in ny and pa your are pretty accurate on the patterns .
 

Red Suit Guy

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You are unlikely to find any kind of pattern in random number generators. You know the software you guys are talking about is the kind are software the casinos use when developing their algorithms to make sure games are random
 

Trinsic

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That's true but I wouldn't say the casinos know everything.

If a pattern in RNG could be found then it would apply to a lot of other games.

It's worth looking into but where do you start
 

shOOter

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The whole idea of waves and repeaters is probably in your head.

Sometimes you are going to have a few wins in a row, sometimes you are going to have losses in a row.

And sometimes you will have a mix of both.

It doesn't mean any of it is a pattern
 

22doh

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Googling chaos theory in gambling has this at top.

professional gamblers know that when it comes to the game of roulette, the best strategy is the same one that supercomputer Joshua applied to nuclear war in the movie WarGames: "The only way to win is not to play."

But that didn't stop a group of chaos theorists from trying to beat it anyway. And according to new research published in the journal Chaos, it looks like they may have found a way to beat the house. They were able to model the motion of the wheel and ball and were able to confirm their predictions both in simulation and using an actual roulette wheel.

"Knowing the initial conditions allows you to beat the odds," said Michael Small, who carried out the study with Chi Kong Tse, in a press release. "In some cases you can beat them quite significantly."
Of course, casinos tend to frown on precise measurements and computer simulations by their gamblers, so the researchers developed a simpler method of predicting the outcome of a roulette game that could be deployed without notice. The first step is simply for a player to note the time it takes for the ball to pass a fixed point to get a rough approximation of the velocity of the ball. That approach, according to the researchers, produces results that " although noisy, are feasible" for making predictions.

Using those simple measurements and the equations presented in the paper, the researchers were able to predict which half of the roulette wheel the ball would end up in about 59% of the time. By betting strategically in accordance with those predictions, this enabled them to get an 18% return on their gambling. That's compared to a -2.7% return in the normal course of roulette gambling.

According to the researchers, some casino practices could enable even better returns. "If you wish to beat the house, look for a wheel for which the ball drops only from one side of the rim – that is, a crooked table," Small said in the release. "Prediction becomes substantially simpler and more reliable."

Of course, Small adds that, "even if the odds are in your favor, there is still a probability of losing, and losing big. In the long run you would come out ahead but you may first need very deep pockets."

Don't rejoice too quickly, gamblers. As the researchers note in the paper, "for the casino the news is mostly good—minor adjustments will ameliorate the advantage of the physicist-gambler."

As a result, professional gamblers should probably stick to the games where math and skill still reign supreme over chance, like poker.
 

Red Suit Guy

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How has that got anything to do with chaos theory? It looks like they are talking about visual ballistics or roulette computers. The reporters at Forbes are full of shit

These are questions only someone with experience in the field can answer. It looks like they have taken old news and try to make new news out of it
 

Trinsic

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What about fractals? Everything can be explained with mathematics and fractals other science behind the whole universe
 

steve

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Everything can be expressed as a fractal. It's a mathematical model. That includes RNG. But i haven't personally found a way to make use of it with RNG
 

777

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Fractals might help us understand how a plant might grow or something like that but how are you going to use it to predict something other than the growth of something green
 

shOOter

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It's something to think about but you think it could be applied to a game like craps? A person throws dice I don't see how it can help

Maybe I'm missing something here care to explain?
 

Phi

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Just imagine this whole universe is a symphony of things happening where one thing causes the next and the next and the next,

The so-called professionals will say that events in gambling are not linked but I disagree. Everything affects everything and everything is connected. There is proof of this everywhere.

I think the only reason the professionals or so they call themselves will say the events are not connected is because they don't know what they are looking at

Fibonacci trading might be related to its where the past events can be used to check for geometric patterns in the ups and downs of stock prices.

Maybe this kind of approach can be used to forecast if you are going to win or lose
 
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