Blackjack Any good blackjack apps?

[luckysam]

So I've heard many people say that you do not have to go to a casino to test your luck and I'm not talking about the websites in which you can play Blackjack online.

I have heard that there is one called 'Ultimate Blackjack Reloaded' that's available for iPhone users. It is actually a casino style card game that lets you engage with a dealer in a battle of wits. This is mainly about sharpening your skills.

 

[shaqque]

I am not on the iOs platform so perhaps I will check if a similar app is available on the Android platform.

I would use anything that helps me perfect my skills rather than actually play online. It is the perfect way to become a grand master.

 

[GreenKing]

Nope, I don't really gamble on my iPhone or tablet. When you get to my age, the screen is too small for me to be able to see the cards!
Good luck finding what you need though.

 

[drop90]

For iPhone/Apple platform, my friends like to play BC Blackjack. I'm not a fan of playing with phones, tablets, or websites because they are too unrealistic. I suppose we can use it for practice purpose because of their mobility.

 

[22doh]

You would need to consider if it is legal too. Being online casinos might be different story

 

[Stealth]

Check out products at Qfit.com as they are the gold standard of both mobile and desktop based instruction and practice for Blackjack.

 

[Card Buff]

What do you want the app to do? I have lots of different software for various card games.

 

[hemis]

Card counting itself is not a legal, unless you use an electronic device. It is a felony in Vegas for example. Basic card counting is extremely easy but if you take it beyond that and look at shuffle analysis you can't possibly do that without some kind of help like electronic devices

 

[Stealth]

Basic card counting is extremely easy but if you take it beyond that and look at shuffle analysis you can't possibly do that without some kind of help like electronic devices

Card counting is easy (fourth grade math) but doing it in a casino environment and at casino play speeds is not so easy.

Card counting requires:

Absolute mastery of basic strategy
Ability to assign values to card denomination and to maintain a running count of them.
Ability to convert that running count into a true count based on depth of the play into the decks offered.
Ability to remember between 22 - 100 index numbers at which you execute plays that depart from basic strategy based on the true count.
Ability to determine proper bet amounts based on the true count at the beginning of each round.
Ability to do all of this with no errors with a dealer dealing over 100 hands per hour.

So, if this is easy to you then you are a candidate for my team, assuming you have the requisite bankroll to contribute and you are a person of integrity.

I suspect most who have heard of card counting have no idea what the above steps are and speak out of ignorance. They think it is only counting cards.

Shuffle tracking does not require computers but does require mastery of other skill sets. Not all shuffles are worth tracking as they produce too random results.

 

[hemis]

I might be wrong but I'm not sure if you can beat today shuffle analysis machines. Does anyone know a viable way? I'm not sure I would believe you but I'm interested to know.

 

[Stealth]

I might be wrong but I'm not sure if you can beat today shuffle analysis machines.

"Generally", you and counters can not beat continuous shuffle machines (CSM) (there are some rare exceptions).

Automated shuffle machines (ASM) simply remove the labor part of shuffling from the dealer and can be beaten with card counting but not shuffle tracking.

Shuffle tracking is about having a shuffle that is relatively simple, predictable and repeatable. You will need to plan and practice with this specific knowledge but you do not need any electronic assistance to beat this game. Dealing procedures are set by house rules but may vary somewhat by dealer. This is not for the uniformed AND must be done while counting. Are we having fun yet?

 

[kenzow]

We are having fun already. @Stealth, you are very knowledgeable about these things. You look to me like a person who can count cards and can easily spot someone trying to 'cheat' in this way. Which makes me ask whether it is easy to win at Blackjack without trying to count cards?

 

[Stealth]

We are having fun already. @Stealth, you are very knowledgeable about these things. You look to me like a person who can count cards and can easily spot someone trying to 'cheat' in this way. Which makes me ask whether it is easy to win at Blackjack without trying to count cards?

Yes, I am an advantage player with knowledge on many games.

Your question "Can I win at blackjack without counting?" is a good one.



Now let's examine what the chart tells us.

If you play PERFECT BASIC STRATEGY and always bet $25 per round then the green line is your expected results over a growing number of rounds. The gold lines indicate the range of results (high and low) that you can expect about 67% of the time. The red lines indicate the range you can expect 95% of the time.

So, the game has a house edge (-.5% to -.8%) that will never let you win in the long term (one hour = ~ 100 rounds). But you can win in the short term due to the variance (range of possible results) of the game. If you are not using perfect basic strategy these numbers likely get 3 to 5 times worse.

Even card counters have to have large bankrolls to overcome variance on the way to long term winning.

 

[Stealth]

For iPhone/Apple platform, my friends like to play BC Blackjack. I'm not a fan of playing with phones, tablets, or websites because they are too unrealistic. I suppose we can use it for practice purpose because of their mobility.

The qfit.com com mobile and PC versions of "Casino Verite" are the most realistic, most accurate, most helpful in training, and the gold standard for blackjack AP play (as well as people wanting to learn).

 

[luckysam]

Even card counters have to have large bankrolls to overcome variance on the way to long term winning.

Truth be told, I'm amazed by the depth of your analysis; I hope to be like you one day in the future. I've never quite understood why there's a big deal about card counting in casinos. Even if card counters are able to bet more with reduced risk, is it always the case that they have an advantage over the house? Hasn't there been a mechanism of countering card counting skills other than catching cheats?

 

[Stealth]

Truth be told, I'm amazed by the depth of your analysis; I hope to be like you one day in the future. I've never quite understood why there's a big deal about card counting in casinos. Even if card counters are able to bet more with reduced risk, is it always the case that they have an advantage over the house? Hasn't there been a mechanism of countering card counting skills other than catching cheats?

There are any number of counter measures the casino can take. Shuffle early, flat bet you, change the rules, etc. To full understand the issue you have to study and understand the math behind the process. It is too much to be covered or answered in a forum post.

You should understand that counters bet more when they have a statistical advantage. Doing so and controlling risk are a different concept. Controlling how much I bet is a formula based on the advantage I have, and the size of my bankroll which determines the level of risk I am willing to take. Lookup "Kelly" betting.

The level of risk can be quantified into a percentage called "risk of ruin" (ROR) which tells you what your chances are of losing all of your money. We design betting systems to bet as much as we can with an advantage but at less than 1% ROR.

 

[SeanR]

Try out a new one called Cleebo it's not an app but it's pretty fun.